Jodi Cooper

A 26-year old gal learning just how much she needs Jesus

REPOST!

December9

I’m reposting this (from a few months ago) because I forgot about it, and like this post, and I want some comments people. So, comment already! Isn’t it interesting to look back even a few months and read things you’ve written and see already how your thoughts have grown and are shifting…I can see it when I read this.

So, why do you think there are so many Christian church denominations in the USA? I’m really just thinking about some of the possibilities. I have heard various theories and thoughts, from different viewpoints. But, I’m just wondering what your opinion is, whomever you are. What, for example, regardless of what you believe, would you say if someone asked you this question about denominations?

This summer I read Philip Yancey’s book, “Disappointment with God: Three questions no one asks aloud.” The title sounds shady, but it was one of the best books I have read to date. I have two special moments this book brought into my life, so I’ll share really quickly.

1. I was at a Starbucks, and the gal making my coffee asked me what I was reading, I quickly held it up, not realizing that on my book in huge dark letters was “DISAPPOINTMENT WITH GOD.” Her face immediately shifted into a defensive mode and she started to kind of question me and I felt this weird sensation come over me. Like, I got defensive back. I wanted her to know that I am a firm believer in God, and in reality, the book made me understand Him more. This gal, I’m sure with good intentions, I could tell, was trying to sort of defend God in an “I’m offended that you’re offended with God” way, and I suddenly realized that this is what it feels like to be doubting God and to have someone respond very rigidly to honest searching. It was not a good feeling. I’m thankful for that experience to hopefully keep me more aware of that feeling. Good motivation, and a firm belief in truth are fabulous, wonderful things, but it’s all about the delivery I guess. It helps keep me humble. :)

2. I went to a Christian book store to look for this Yancey book. And I couldn’t find it, so I went up to the customer service desk, and the guy was looking for it and couldn’t find it, but kept repeating, “I know we have one here somewhere….” And next he stood up, and went walking around the entire store shouting out, “HAS ANYONE SEEN DISAPPOINTMENT WITH GOD? DISAPPOINTMENT WITH GOD? ANYONE??? ANYONE?” I enjoyed that shenanegan. I ended up getting it at Borders and having a really interesting conversation with the sales guy and even had a lunch invitation!

Okay, my point here is that I loved this book. Relating this back to denominations, Yancey talked about how it seems to him that God keeps parts of Himself, well, depending on what you personally feel, soKribi fishing boatmetimes, quite a bit of Himself, kind of “hidden” from humanity so that we develop a deep, seeking passion and faith for Him. I absolutely can see that. Especially after revealing Himself so intimately, openly, obviously, and visibly to the Israelites, and receiving doubt and irritation in return. Yancey said something like, “Maybe this type of relationship didn’t create the love that God so deeply desired from us.” And so He changed the way He interacted with humanity. Firstly in Himself and the Prophets, but then in His son Jesus, and finally through His children, those who believe in Him. So, Yancey I think referenced denominations in this discussion, and how this was also a result of God keeping Himself a beautiful mystery (in my point of view), and vulnerably allowing humanity to seek Him out and not constantly reaching down and correcting and openly intervening. This has left us with some unknowns. And therefore each man can read the same thing and come to slightly different conclusions, leading to denominations and the like.

What do you think?

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4 Comments to

“REPOST!”

  1. On December 11th, 2006 at 5:23 pm Brian Says:

    Millie and I enjoyed the conversation yesterday! I was reading some things on the resource page of Coram Deo’s website and came across this excellent essay: http://www.redeemer2.com/resources/papers/missional.pdf
    The author’s opinion makes a ton of sense to me, so I think I will agree with him. Towards the end he talks about how in the “Christianized” culture of the past, denominations came about because people felt the culture was Christian and so instead of defining themselves against the culture they defined their beliefs against other churches within that culture.

  2. On December 11th, 2006 at 5:53 pm jodi Says:

    oooo brian, thanks! I will look at that later tonight. Nice one. That is an interesting perspective, I’m interested to check it out. Someone asked me this question about denominations this year and I have been thinking about it since then.

  3. On December 11th, 2006 at 6:17 pm jodi Says:

    i just realized i say “interesting” way too often.

  4. On July 12th, 2007 at 12:06 am Verndigger Says:

    Hi Jodi - been browsing through your posts, and found this one…

    I have stewed about the many many different Christian denominations, and even splits *within* denominations, and wondered too, why things are like this in God’s universe.

    when I was snorkeling in Cuba ( and looking at TV nature shows), I saw boundless diversity.
    Scientists have not even discovered all the species of creatures there are, yet.

    and from this infinite diversity of God’s ideas in Her creation, I have evolved (am evolving!) a theory that perhaps humans being what we are, God has decided that different folks *need* different beliefs at a particular time in their experience.

    I don’t think this is the same as “all roads lead to God”, but it may be pretty close.

    I have trust and faith that God - the one and only Creator of the universe - is guiding me in my daily walk. and this was and must have been true even when I was NOT paying attention!
    Romans 11:36 in the NEB describes God as “Source, Guide, and Goal of all that is” !

    so I have to assume, have faith, that this God, our heavenly Father, (and Mother) is guiding ALL His ideas.

    ergo, I don’t have to worry about ‘others’ (we are all one in actuality, thus the quotes), and don’t assume that I and I only have the *TRUE* belief.

    how’s that ?

    Numbers 6:24-26 to ya,

    Verndigger

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